Response to a supporter of torture.

One of the red-necks in my union's unofficial news group actually had an answer for my forwarding a story about how the higher ups in Iraq OK'd torture.

Commander approved interrogations violating Geneva Conventions

He wrote back "Terrorists violate Geneva Conventions 9/11."

I replied "I thought we were supposed to be better than them. Are you defending torture, [name]? I thought you were ignoring me. Punk." He didn't defend himself, but he didn't like being called a punk. So here's my reply:

That's the nicest thing I could think to call you. You know what the definition of Punk is? Someone who picks on people who don't deserve it. So, if you're advocating torturing Iraqis, who had nothing to do with 9-11, then I'm defining you, not calling you names.

Here's the letter I took time out of my day to write you, because I really worry about people like you and what you are doing to the country I love:

You suggested that torturing Iraqis, many of whom have since proven to be innocent, was justified because the terrorists attacked us.

I just wanted to make sure you know that 16 of the 19 terrorists were Saudi's, you know, like the 160 friends of George Bush who he helped scuttle out of the country on 9-12, without asking any questions. Not a single terrorist was Iraqi. In fact, no Iraqi had anything to do with 9-11. And after lying about it for the entire year up to the war, the Bush administration, especially Dick Cheney, have now taken to lying that they never lied. People have read back their quotes to prove them wrong, and they just sit there and smile.

Are you supporting those lies, [snip]? Where are the WMD, [snip]? Where are the connections to Al Qaeda?

That's funny. Even the Bush liars Administration has said they were wrong. So, you and a few thousand skin head Republicans are the only ones left who believe the bullshit that has gotten over 1500 Americans killed, thousands more mutilated, and over 100,000 dead Iraqis.

Now say we only tortured people with a direct connection to 9-11, which we didn't. We tortured all kinds of people. We're making enemies faster than we can kill them. But say, for the sake of argument, that we did. What would that get us? False confessions? How does that help us?

In WWII, my Grandpa, who was UDT, was stationed next to a Japanese prison on Guam. He had friends who were guards. They were nice to the prisoners. The prisoners were so shocked that they weren't tortured, as they'd been told they would be, that it shattered their entire brainwashed view of Americans, and they coughed up all kinds of GOOD information.

If you've been keeping up with the news AT ALL, you'd know that we got no good info from those we tortured. In fact, we got crap.

Now I know red-necks like you are more than happy to throw away your Christian beliefs about how you're supposed to behave to your enemies. But I suggest that if we'd really like to stop terrorists from attacking us, we:

• Start setting examples of how CIVILIZED people live.
• Stop wanting vengeance and start wanting solutions.
• Start following the Geneva conventions for the sake or our soldiers who are captured in future wars.
• Stop listening to the Rush Limbaugh fueled bullshit that comes out of the mouths of vicious thugs who actually want a world-wide religious war.
  

Oh, and about that instant Karma. I hope you get to suffer that which you wish upon innocents.

Now, have you read up on how soil is created in a forest ecosystem yet [an ongoing ribbing because he won't answer to what he said about any tree that falls in a forest that we don't use goes to waste]? Punk.

Scott Supak
http://supak.com